Ok, now ppl i would like you to listen ..
This is not my first tank. I had one before and it was a successful one despite the fact i had no experience. I did one mistake though.. I brought once a sick organism (a sponge) And its toxin spreaded rapidly , killing nearly every living thing..(dont worry i saved some of them). I decided to set up my tank again - doing everything exactly as previously -except the " pathogen" thing..I used same things, was accurate with my doses. So... after a while my tank was ready - CYCLED - without a doubt! So dont try to tell me i put the fish too soon - NO. I tested my water.. It was ok. ..I brought the fish (2).They were small - like 3cm or less..But as soon as I placed them in my tank i realised that one of them had that "cotton thing" on its pelvic fin.. Wasn't sure it was fin rot but it really was.. I went to my LFS and told him about it. He said it was fin rot and gave me a medication (for general use - not only fin rot) He said i said i shouldnt use it if i have corals or anemones. I hadnt had any so i took it and in the evening gave him antibiotics - as he adviced me ( the fish was feeling horrible ). I did some test the following day and found out something was wrong cycle was um.. disrupted? So i did a 25% water change, and the next day another 25% .. I was using the medicine all the time (right dosage..) I really dont know what caused my cycle to disrupt to suddenly.. I would like you to stop telling me i should have tested the water, i should have changed it . I really did it! And came here to take some advice and not to be blamed for something i didnt do..
To SarahSmile : We have met before in my other threads and i dont know if you can remember i told you my story - i explained to you everything - i couldnt test the water then and wanted to add fish - (as i told you i was sure about my cycle) and i was right. But then i didnt want to risk so borrowed money and did that damn tests just to be sure - parameters were perfect. Added fish and the problems began as soon as i realised one of them was sick - and as soon as i started using medicine.. So dear Sarah - please stop telling me my tank didnt cycle and that i added fish too soon because as you all know the cycle can be disrupted for different reasons and i was hoping we will think of anything together but im disappointed now cuz no one is really listening and .. do you really think that 60 liters is not enough for two amphiprion ocellaris? I dont think so.. Concluding.. please if you really wanna help me start listening and not reading 2 comments above and making conclusions yourself..
To Samhain : I agree that fish are individuals. But still there are some things they have in common as for example oxygen level. But thats not eht case. The prob is that the litlle friend is fine - they are in the same tank since fin rot istn contagious and the reason why little changes in water parameters can affect his behaviour is that the bigger one is sick and has weaker immune system now.. The parameters i have now arent perfect but they arent killing them.. I was so worried about the guy, i talked to my LFS today and told him whats his behaviour.. he told me he is "resisting" the sickness and will be behaving like this (ive never had a fish with fin rot ). I did and keep doing 25% water changes daily and dont know what happened to my cycle, maybe the meds?.. So again.. try to listen and ask..btw you answer looked like you really wanted to help and i appreciate that..
To Northstar24 : Thanks for reply but next time if you are willing to help - read the whole case - everything and try to find what is really going on and not just look at the parameters and conclude my tank didnt cycle. If thats your help - thanks a lot! Try a little harder at helping ppl - i always try. And BTW it seems i didnt do your h/w i guess.. you should know its not that u cycle, add fish and everything is aaallriightt . No. Cycles can be "disturbed" and they always are at some point - on the way to stability. So mr. clever tell me why has it changed? Why is it constantly changing? (with water changes too) something causes it and i wanna find out what but no one's willing to answer this question..
Thanks for ur interest.
Acutally, if you ask around these forums, I have helped many posters, and have also been helped by many more.
But just so that I understand the situation:
You cyceld a tank and was sure it was cylced somehow, even though you thought a test kit was optional
You were dosing calcium (and alkalinity I assume as well) even though you didnt have testing kits for them
You were convinced that your water parameters were okay (again, without a test kit) so you decide to add fish
In the process of shopping for fish for a tank you had no business putting fish in, you knowingly bought an ill fish (that is what I gathered from your last post)
You then start dosing medications without getting confirmation on what the fish is sick with
You finally get a test kit, and discover that you have detectable ammonia and nitrite
Am I missing anything?
Here is how you resolve this situation:
1) Stop dosing EVERYTHING
2)Do water changes until ammonia and nitrite are reading 0
3) Post photos here or on wet web meda and get confirmation of what is affecting your fish
4)Once water parameters are under control, treat the fish once the malady has been congfirmed. Treating in a hospital tank is preferable to treating directly in the display tank
5) NEVER dose your tank for something you are not actively testing for....EVER
And finally, don't post here asking for help, and then try telling everyone that you know what you doing, and none of us know what we're talking about - its not going to be productive for anyone involved