i've only ever been stuck by a baby brown... and i do mean a baby, it scared me more than it hurt, cause supposedly i'm alergic to bee stings, but we dont know for sure, so i wasnt sure how i would react, but really, for me, it was more the puncture would, than the poison, if he injected any, i dunno, it never puffed up, or got red, but i could tell i got poked with something, kinda felt like after you poke yourself with a sewing needle(yea i can sew, and i can sew well, so drop it)